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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/27/2016 11:22:37 AM
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Re: Verizon Exec Says
I couldn't agree more. I feel like it's easiest to punt fingers at another company, person, etc but it really comes down Verizon. It's so true what you said about "you never know who's help you'll need in the future." I think Verizon should take a step back and focus on what went wrong on their part.

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freehe
freehe
5/26/2016 5:07:02 PM
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Verizon Exec Says
 It is never good to point fingers especially when working in a large industry such as telco, you never know how things may turn out, who you will work with, merge with or need in the future. His statement could have been phrased in a better way. There could be various reasons why the decoupling the control and data planes is not occurring.

Verizon needs to make sure all of their issues are resolving before pointing the finger at another company.



http://downdetector.com/status/verizon-communications

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/01/19/verizon-customer-emails-exposed/#7f82fa833cca

 

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DHagar
DHagar
5/11/2016 10:14:00 PM
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Re: Too many standards!
@mhhf1ve, good information!

Your assessment may be correct on Apple.  As you see there is speculation that the momentum and growth of iPhones is slowing and beginning to impact their financials.  That may be an indication of their need to broaden to open source?

Interesting notes on Ballmer.  I firmly believe that Open Source platforms will be THE choice for developers.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/11/2016 9:39:46 PM
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Re: Too many standards!
> " I do not view Apple as being an open system as much."

Well, even Apple needs to change its stance on open source a bit to attract developers! The Swift language is now open source:

https://swift.org/

So sure, it could be argued that Apple is the major supplier (if not the only supplier) of hardware that runs Swift. But now that Swift is open source, Apple is encouraging developers to create Swift apps on any platform they wish.

Microsoft's Ballmer was correct when he targeted "developers, developers, developers..." -- but he didn't target open source as a way to attract them to Microsoft products. Now it looks like the tide has really turned, and there's no going back to proprietary languages.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/11/2016 7:49:52 PM
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Re: Too many standards!
@mhhf1ve, thanks that is good information.  Those are positive signs that they have converted.  It makes sense for large carriers like Verizon to become a host (ie platform) and open up the markets, as opposed to competing in their own proprietary domains.  Let's see if they remain on track.

Good point about the hybrid form.  I do not view Apple as being an open system as much.  I realize they have some partnership alliances on some of their projects, but they have been quite successful in having the proprietary Apple products.  It will be interesting to see if that ever changes.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/11/2016 6:34:56 PM
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Re: Too many standards!
> "if they are now converts it will be interesting to see what changes they make to advance truly uniform standards."

Well, Verizon is working with OpenStack, and they apparently specifically stated that they didn't want to fork the code while working with its partners to develop on OpenStack. So... Verizon seems to be adopting the open source mantra and playing nice. (For now?)

There's always the possibility that once the open platforms are mature enough, that these companies will revert back to their strategies of proprietary code. Apple straddles the open source platform lines, picking and choosing when to be open and when not to be -- so it's not an "all or nothing" situation by any means.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/11/2016 4:42:24 PM
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Re: Too many standards!
@mhhf1ve, one wonders what Verizon is thinking of.  This is truly a need to unify standards and/or create interoperability among platforms, but as you point out, the issue is "whose platform"?  I believe that Verizon is right on target and how the industry needs to resond, but I have not noticed them being a long-standing advocate of collaboration and/or contributing to a platform other than their own.

As you point out, if they are now converts it will be interesting to see what changes they make to advance truly uniform standards.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2016 3:21:49 PM
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Too many standards!
> " The Verizon executive blamed the problem on having too many standards bodies and open source groups that haven't worked together."

This. Wow. It's a bit surprising to hear this coming from a major carrier since the major carriers have sometimes been the ones to try to institute different proprietary standards within the telco space.. but I suppose it's never to late to see the error of one's ways?

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