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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/15/2016 8:31:41 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
@faryl.... That's certainly an interesting interpretation of what the desired outcome might be for something like this. Force us to seek out more human contact. Though even calling 1-800 numbers anymore tends to lead to lots of time spent not actually speaking to a human. If this is what it takes to get us to speak to humans anymore, as a species, we might be doomed. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 8:04:56 AM
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Re: Being invisible offline
I'm not a great enthusiast for social media; as far as I can see it mostly enables my spouse to stay in touch with the sort of casual acquaintance that I prefer to have drift out of my life and become, someday, "Whatever became of old whatsisname?"  Sort of like having a storage unit you can't empty.  Contrariwise, I like having a small group of actual friends with whom I trade one or two letters a year, because we both pay attention to the letters, instead of treating it as background noise.

So for social media, I stick to Twitter, where most of the time everything is gone quickly.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 7:58:54 AM
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Re: Forced Popularity
Creating needs that don't currently exist is a large part of what our industry does. Some of those are pretty wonderful. Some are simply creating automated media to destroy middle-people jobs (media and middle, after all, mean the same thing at the root; it's just that we now use one to refer to what machines do and define that as choice, convenience, and freedom, and the other to define what people do and define it as waste, hassle, and inefficiency). Most are just One More Thing, to be swept away in the storm of the Next Thing.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 7:54:39 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
faryl, unfortunately, there is definitely such a thing as a "reverse Turing effect" in which real-people interactions become more mechanical, predictable, and coded, and so the solution to chatbots that are not particularly helpful is only sometimes going to be chatbots that are actually more helpful.  A large part of it, I'm afraid, will be redefining what chatbots do as "help."

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faryl
faryl
4/15/2016 1:29:29 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
@vnewman I'm not a fan of the feature either. Unless they can be used to send gifts to Facebook friends, as you suggest.....not so I can send any though; I just support any idea that could potentially result in someone sending me chocolate :)

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vnewman
vnewman
4/15/2016 12:33:06 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
I guess you had to be there but I'm definitely not bowled over by this feature. Can I use the bots to send things to my real friends? Because my fb friends aren't really my friends anyway :)

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Ariella
Ariella
4/14/2016 3:35:09 PM
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Re: Being invisible offline
@elizabethv yes, it's nice to have it available for keeping up with relatives in other states, coountries, even continents. I have cousins scattered in many different time zones.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/14/2016 8:07:40 AM
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Being invisible offline
You're right, being offline does come at a cost. My future sister-in-law is staunchly opposed to social media. So much so that my brother is not able to have a social media account either. This means he rarely sees videos of my kids, because any time I make a video on my phone, it is always too large to send anywhere other than Facebook. When we put my dog to sleep last month, I made a tribute video for him, and my brother still hasn't seen it. Anymore, most parties that happen, the invites are sent out on Facebook. Nonetheless, my future sister-in-law doesn't even want her impending marriage posted about on social media. For reasons I can't even begin to understand. Because I love social media. I love being able to keep in touch with people from my past, knowing they are okay, their kids are okay. I suppose that sort of openness isn't for everyone. But there are certainly things you miss by opting out. 

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faryl
faryl
4/13/2016 11:27:44 PM
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Re: Do people really want this?
@JohnBarnes The human-adverse among us already can order flowers without any human interaction - 1800Flowers has a website that can be used to select flowers and place orders.

I'm not convinced a bot is going to make that process any smoother or easier.

Maybe that's the point though? Create technology that is increasingly more annoying so that users will ultimately decide they'd rather talk to a human being...

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faryl
faryl
4/13/2016 11:24:19 PM
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Re: Forced Popularity
@elizabethv I agree. At best, it seems like facebook is trying to create a need that doesn't currently exist.

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