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batye
batye
4/1/2016 7:13:27 AM
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interesting to know
thank you, with technology rapidly changing is not an easy task just to keep up with it... it interesting to know how Data Center Trends changing...

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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/1/2016 10:55:00 AM
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increased data
Data in needed n almost everyhing we do related to computer and processing applications and being more IT/High Tech deal with data information.

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batye
batye
4/1/2016 1:33:40 PM
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Re: increased data
@clrmoney yes I could not agree more dealing with data and process it right way is never ending process....

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afwriter
afwriter
4/3/2016 10:11:14 PM
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Re: increased data
@clrmoney, I mostly agree with you, but it worries me when we put all of our chips into data and don't look at every angle.  Data is only one piece of a big pie.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/4/2016 1:52:11 PM
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Re: increased data
@afwriter, good points about data being one point.  It is the product of our infrastructure and use of technology.  If we don't build the right capabilities we will not produce good data.

Good data is golden, but developing the systems to collect/aggregate, interpret, and connect users all impact the value of data.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/5/2016 7:29:18 AM
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Re: increased data
@afwriter, @DHagar, I don't think it's so much that the technical world is putting all its eggs in the data basket, as that, at the moment, that's where the lucrative eggs are. The best and fastest algorithms for processing big data have to have access to big data (obviously), and every time there are gains in meeting client/user need with better, more intensive use of data, the marginal return to more-and-better-data-faster goes up.  So data gets more valuable as it gets bigger, and bigger as it gets more valuable, and there's a high-profit virtuous circle running at the moment. Eventually the rewards will be elsewhere -- the location of maximum reward has always been shifting since the industry came into being -- but right now the rising wave is in data center size, speed, and responsivity, and that's where the capital is going to flow.

The fire department doesn't worry that they only go out to buildings that are burning. ("Shouldn't we be going to buildings with other problems too? Seems like we're committing all our resources to this fire thing.") They just don't plan that every building that is on fire right now will always be on fire.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/5/2016 1:11:06 PM
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Re: increased data
@JohnBarnes, thank you for that insightful response.

I believe that data is a key part, as the product of technology.  So I agree that they are interdependent.  I further see data as the trigger for expanded use of technology by decision makers to better manage operations and, with predictive analytics, understand the choices that will enable them to get maximum advantage.  When it affects the operations in a positive way I believe the value of both the data and technology will be recognized.

I believe data/technology solutions will continue to be interdependent and advance our use of technology in new and innovative ways.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/5/2016 3:54:34 PM
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Re: increased data
@JohnBarnes, Hello! It's great to see you here. You always have such great insight.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/2/2016 12:32:39 PM
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data center
More data centers can serve to store more information and increased technology as time goes on things become more advanced.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/4/2016 1:48:49 PM
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Re: data center
@clrmoney, I agree that the data centers open the doors to more effective use of data and hosts new technology configurations.

One of the areas I would thing CentryLink could offer as well would be the higher levels of security, which further protects the data with virtualization.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 3:25:03 PM
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Autonomous data centers...
> "Is CenturyLink going to throw a data center in the ocean, like Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) did with Project Natick?"

Maybe no one else is thinking about making their data centers capable of operating underwater, but "lights out" data centers are already becoming the norm -- and getting them to be as autonomous as possible is certainly a admirable goal, even if they're not going to be dumped in the ocean.....

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 3:29:25 PM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
It may be difficult to operate data centers underwater -- but maybe it won't be as difficult to get them into autonomous drones? Mobile data centers that can go wherever you need them! Maybe not flying? Just imagine the Knight Rider's semi-truck beaming data wirelessly while filled with modular computers.... Okay.. probably not great for energy efficiency, but Sun Microsystems almost made a containerized data center that could work on trains/ships/etc....

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Ariella
Ariella
4/5/2016 3:53:30 PM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
<t may be difficult to operate data centers underwater > @mhhf1ve That gives me an image of the submarine in "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea." If there were one set up, I'm sure it will be necessary to review the environmental impact on the sea and the creatures surrounding it. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 6:45:55 PM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
The only undersea data centers so far have been experimental, I think, but people have put a bunch of undersea internet cables on the ocean floor -- so I assume the "encvironmental impact" factor isn't a huge deal when the economic impact is more near term.

(Also, presumably, undersea data centers would be located near undersea internet cables to get the fastest connections...)

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Ariella
Ariella
4/5/2016 7:01:35 PM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
@mhhf1ve Over a hundred years ago transatlantic cables were laid for telegraph service, so ther eis precedent. However, then people weren't really concerned about environmental impacts. I found an argument in favor of the cables  that touches on that history:

More than 95 percent of international Internet, telephone, and data traffic is transported by undersea cable, a percentage that continues to increase over time. ƒ More than 1 million km of fiber-optic cable installed globally. ƒ Undersea cables are both the old and the new technology, with transoceanic telegraph cables dating back to the 1850s and fiberoptics revolutionizing communications in the 1980s



The main point of the piece is to defend the cables as less harmful to marine life than commercial fishing:

Although subject to extensive environmental reviews, the impact of undersea cable projects is essentially benign. ƒ Undersea cables are made from non-toxic materials that present little risk due to leaching. In fact, in some cases, disused cable has been incorporated into artificial reefs. Marine life gravitate toward cables. ƒ Cable installation and repair, including route clearance, plowing, jetting, and grappling, are far less damaging that other marine activities such as trawling, and are also one-time or occasional activities. ƒ Cable ships cause no more air pollution that other vessels and pose none of the pollution risks of oil and gas development or the commercial cruise-ship industry. ƒ Commercial fishermen are far more likely to injure marine life.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 7:14:13 PM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
The ocean floor will need to be protected soon. I'm not sure which authorities govern the vast areas of the sea floor, but if it's international waters... 

There are some more serious environmental concerns about mining the seabed for metals. Not too long ago, China had (has?) a monopoly on the rare earth mining/production operations, so some companies have developed autonomous robots to mine the ocean floor. Digging up the seabed probably isn't too good for whatever fragile ecosystems exist down there.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/science/09seafloor.html

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/6/2016 6:15:56 AM
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Re: Autonomous data centers...
@mhhf1ve you're undoubtedly right, people are likely far more concerned with the immediate economical impact of technological communication over the long term consequences of any environmental impact. The unfortuante thing is it's very likely we have no idea just how much might rely on anything found in the sea, and by ignoring it for the immediate could have disasterous consequences for entire planet. (Bees come to mind.) I love my technology, but I would also like to see this planet make it a few hundred years more or so (to say the least.) My 3-year-old would say "We can do it!" (He's so encouraging.) :-) 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 7:17:53 PM
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data center satellites...
Autonomous data centers have also been proposed that are solar-powered.. and orbit the earth. It's a bit of a harder sell because rocket launches aren't exactly cheap -- and the built-in latency for terrestrial-space communications isn't great, either.

But free solar energy, possibly 24/7, depending on the orbit... 

The other downside is that you can't just pull it down and replace/upgrade hardware whenever you want.... 

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Ariella
Ariella
4/5/2016 7:33:26 PM
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Re: data center satellites...
<The other downside is that you can't just pull it down and replace/upgrade hardware whenever you want.... >

@mhhf1ve true, it would be quite an operation to get it down safely or to put someone up there to work on it. That's not to say it's impossible, as the Hubble Telescope had to be repaired several times, but it's likely not all that economically feasible. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 7:52:16 PM
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Re: data center satellites...
> "That's not to say it's impossible, as the Hubble Telescope had to be repaired several times, but it's likely not all that economically feasible."

The Hubble was repaired when the Space Shuttle was still operational... now that the Shuttle is mothballed in museums, it's far less economical to retrieve or repair anything floating in space (that's not connected to the International Space Station, that is).

Maybe Elon Musk has some blueprints for another way to do it... but.. it's probably even easier/cheaper for him to just launch another rocket and let old satellites burn up in the atmosphere.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 7:54:22 PM
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Re: data center satellites...
Satellites that collect solar energy and beam it down to earth (without datacenters onboard) are in the proposal stage of development, too..  But I think the hang up is that shooting down energy beams from space is considered an evil villian tactic, not an environmentally sound plan.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 7:56:40 PM
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Re: data center satellites...
> "@mhhf1ve true, it would be quite an operation to get it down safely or to put someone up there to work on it. "

But maybe instead of "someone" -- a robot mission could do it.. I think I've seen some not-so-sci-fi proposals to get robot repair satellites in orbit. But it's usually just to push satellites back into proper orbits, or to re-fuel them... (Not to gut them and upgrade their processors)

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Ariella
Ariella
4/6/2016 8:46:08 AM
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Re: data center satellites...
@mhhf1ve I think a robot mission is feasible, though you still have to have an economical way to get the robots into space and make sure they get what needs to be done there  even if they don't have to be brought back down to earth. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/6/2016 1:19:13 PM
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Re: data center satellites...
Robots are going to be more and more autonomous -- and doing things that are economically impractical with humans very soon. It'll be quite some time before we really see robotic tech do nearly everything a human can do, but maybe we'll be surprised -- like we were with AlphaGo.

Autonomous data centers, though, are nearly here. And I'm really wondering when the "thin computing" predictions of the 90s will come back. We're almost there already with Siri and other cloud-based services/apps.

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