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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/26/2016 10:01:44 AM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
Ah, thanks for clarifying -- and you're right: TANSTAAFL -- or TANSTAAFB.

("Oh, those greedy corporations charging us so much money for their software and the rights to use and adapt and even modify (or request modifications of) it and it doesn't even work the way we want it to all the time!  We should instead use this software that's totally free except it kind of doesn't work the way we want it to all the time unless we pay for support -- but that's okay because we're investing in the community.")

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
3/25/2016 7:35:49 AM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
Joe, among younger tech people "free beer" seems to be what "free lunch" is among us geezers: the thing that, actually, you pay for, somehow.

Having recently gotten into R, which is deliberately about as open-source as any software can be, I've been noticiing how much of the R world turns around "free beer", i.e. the many ways that providing support for R takes the place of the non-existent R corporation.  It's all free and open source -- but there'a  great deal of convenience involved for those who can spend some money, and a monetizable reputation involves an investment of time, money, and effort that looks suspiciously like what that non-existent corporation would have had to spend for. (Sometimes the beer is free and public, but all the restrooms are private and cost a couple of dollars ...)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/23/2016 12:28:58 PM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
@mhh: Where are you getting free beer?

Or is that a reference to something (and thus proving my un-hipness)?

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elizabethv
elizabethv
3/22/2016 6:52:29 AM
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Re: Competition...
What about the idea that potentially open source could remain more open source, and offer support solutions through their network, rather than through a dedicated support service. More often people that need support could have their questions answered through others utilizing the service with more knowledge. This would keep overhead low, not necessarily take from overall profit and still over the ability to service people who want to participate in the network but occasionally have difficulties that detract from their overall experience. 

Do you think this might be a successful route for open source networks to take? 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/21/2016 9:04:42 PM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
> "a lot of open-source "solutions" offer minimal to zero support."

Yup. Software is free (as in speech AND beer), but support will cost ya.

 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/21/2016 12:57:54 PM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
@Joe:

Very good point, Can't agree more.

At times that support factor becomes a key factor in decision making.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/20/2016 3:53:05 PM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
Indeed, I suspect one of the driving reasons for your observation is that a lot of open-source "solutions" offer minimal to zero support.

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faryl
faryl
3/20/2016 2:21:06 PM
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Re: Business models for different licensing models...
I imagine the proliferation of open source makes QA pretty challenging as well.



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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/20/2016 5:05:46 AM
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Business models for different licensing models...
Open source seems to do well with companies that are funded by advertising and not by customers buying products/services directly. Closed source seems to be favored by hardware companies trying to sell more hardware. But there are some hybrid situations where hardware companies rely on OSS to sell more hardware too. But can an existing company with a "working" business model upend its business by adopting OSS? I'm not sure I've seen many companies change their open source policy without also changing their business model.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
3/19/2016 12:00:51 PM
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Source Platforms
What are they mad about because some thing didn't go way they thought then they should come up with better solutions for this platforms so they wantlose so much money.

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