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Itsmeshawn22
Itsmeshawn22
5/31/2017 12:50:41 PM
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CeBIT: Huawei Debuts IoT Lighting Platform
This is very interesting witht he technology these days. I allways thought that the LoT platform was great but after reading this it can do alot better and the consumers with the technology need to improve a little bit with the force itsself. I really think that it can get a better deal with the Huawei Debuts because with the systems improving and getting more powerful these day it will bring the population up a huge mile.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/21/2016 10:30:48 AM
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@Joe that's some story! They can say, we're not being lazy; we're just complying with the system. Universities sometimes also use that kind of technology, and I've heard of some student who were left in the dark when they were just sitting in a room studying.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/21/2016 10:28:02 AM
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@faryl your observation about the parallel to income levels is very insightful. I recall reading something by Dan Ariely that touched on that. We easily adjust upwards.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/21/2016 3:33:35 AM
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I'm reminded of an email Scott Adams got years ago describing a vendor visiting a company's conference room.  He was giving a presentation and asked someone to get turn off the lights.  No one moved.  He started looking for the lights himself -- as no one moved.  After no success, he finally asked what was going on.  Somebody explained to him that the company had switched the conference-room lights to motion detection because too many people were leaving the lights on when it was empty; consequently, whenever a presenter wanted to have the lights off, they just "sat real still."

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faryl
faryl
3/18/2016 12:03:07 AM
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Re: lights
@ariella This cracks me up: "in the future, people will no longer have to concern themselves with the tedious task of turning the lighting, heating, or appliances on and off."


Though, I wonder if "ease of use" (for lack of a better term) is similar to income/wealth, in that as people's incomes increase, generally their spending/cost of living does too; it's like people start to acclimate to whereever they are at (e.g., someone who makes $100k doesn't end up putting that much more into savings than they did when they earned $50k - as their income increased, so did the cost of their lifestyle).

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that after getting a new router, I spent way too much time figuring out how to get my LIFX app to connect with my lights to turn them off, instead of just getting off my butt to flip a switch! (it didn't even occur to me at first!)


The security issues for the IOT is also concerning. I can see it being similar to OSX and viruses: Apple products weren't necessarily secure, they just didn't have the market penetration to make it worth the time to create viruses to target them. People get lulled into a false sense of security fairly easily when it comes to convenience!

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DHagar
DHagar
3/17/2016 4:28:58 PM
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Re: lights
@afwriter, I share your excitement in that this is another true advancement in technology solutions to real problems.  Huawei is brilliant in adapting low-tech/high-tech and providing a platform that not only provides smarter lighting but simultaneously "connects" IoT.  They have designed an excellent platform.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/17/2016 9:44:31 AM
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@Writerfo10281 exactly, ever since gas lights gave way to electric ones on the streets, there are no people going around manually lighting them up. So they have some kind of automatic setting but not necessarily a smart one. I have noticed in my own neighborhood that some lights are changing. It's been done before just for the looks of the lights, but these look different and may be a test of a smart light system.

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Writerfo10281
Writerfo10281
3/17/2016 7:43:43 AM
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@Ariella, first of all, your post made me laugh (Thank you for that, this early in the morning)...and second I could not agree more. How hard is it to turn lights off and on? (Well, sometimes my husband seems to think turning them off is very difficult...kidding!). 

As for the street lights, though, it is a great idea. I know that in our subdivision (we live in the 'burbs) we've had street lights that were out for months, and no one did a thing about them...I even tried reporting them and it was a huge process. We walk our dogs very early in the morning, when it is very dark out, and those missing lights made it a little scary.

Smart lights would make a huge difference--and cut out all that 'red tape' when one goes down...I'd love it! What a smart idea.  And on the flip side, it would keep the street lights off when the sun comes up, saving cities some $$.

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afwriter
afwriter
3/16/2016 11:35:42 PM
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I have neve thought of IoT in this scope.  This is absolutley exciting and its possibilities are endless.  I love the idea that cities would be able to save money and place those savings somewhere else.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/16/2016 3:20:31 PM
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There is some real advantage to smart city lights. I often remark on street lights that should be on when they aren't or that are on when there is no need, which is just a waste of energy. However, I do wonder at the touting of managing indoor lights without lifting a finger. I just read this on a company site: "in the future, people will no longer have to concern themselves with the tedious task of turning the lighting, heating, or appliances on and off."

Really? You find it too tedious to turn on the lights or flick on your appliance? I just find that astounding. I find it tedious to sort and iron and fold laundry. But just putting on the washer is easy. Also there is a downside to managing everything through a smartphone as one tech-savvy guest in a hotel explained here:

  tcpdump showed that traffic was being sent to 172.16.207.14, and pymodbuslet me start controlling my lights, turning the TV on and off and even making my curtains open and close. What fun!

And then I noticed something. My room number is 714. The IP address I was communicating with was 172.16.207.14. They wouldn't, would they?

I mean yes obviously they would.

It's basically as bad as it could be - once I'd figured out the gateway, I could access the control systems on every floor and query other rooms to figure out whether the lights were on or not, which strongly implies that I could control them as well. Jesus Molina talked about doing this kind of thing a couple of years ago, so it's not some kind of one-off - instead, hotels are happily deploying systems with no meaningful security, and the outcome of sending a constant stream of "Set room lights to full" and "Open curtain" commands at 3AM seems fairly predictable.

We're doomed.

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