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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 7:29:01 PM
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All about getting less expensive hardware?
This is really big news for telcos and MSOs. If telco hardware can become an open commodity, then it'll save enormous amounts for development. This should also make it a bit more competitive for operators, but then there's also all the barriers to entry that the incumbents can ride on, so it'll take a while before any competition has significant impact.

 

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jbtombes
jbtombes
1/27/2016 8:59:40 PM
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It's moving - not too big a surprise
So the telcos are on the bandwagon crossing the Rubicon - Got it! OCP is moving forward, that's clear. But given existing momentum behind OCP Networking Project and key role of data centers in telco infrastructure, not such a surprising development.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
1/27/2016 11:06:05 PM
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Re: It's moving - not too big a surprise
Maybe not a suprise, JT, but still big news, don't you think? Where are the cable operators? 

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jbtombes
jbtombes
1/28/2016 9:26:34 AM
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Re: It's moving - not too big a surprise
Big news for the day or week, yes. Unexpected in the bigger scheme of things, less so. OCP is still a data-center focused thing and DCs are nothing without connectivity, hence telcos. If there's money to be saved in a relevant business line, cable companies will find a way to get involved.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
1/28/2016 10:20:56 AM
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another one
A cable operator with a large enterprise presence might be interested. 

There's so much going on with open source communities. In October, prior to the split, HP announced the formation of yet another open source community called OpenSwitch

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
1/28/2016 10:32:35 AM
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And this demo last year was interesting. Using Open Network Linux, Big Switch created an OS for OCP. 

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NewIPLiz
NewIPLiz
1/28/2016 12:42:10 PM
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Re: another one
It is certainly an exciting time....but I wonder when this all jumps the shark and there are too many open source groups and not enough people to do all the work? There is a skills shortage already. 

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jbtombes
jbtombes
1/28/2016 6:24:26 PM
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Re: another one
Good point. One thing about OCP is that while there are a hundred or so corporate members, there are hundreds - maybe a couple of thousand? - individual ones. Who knows how active they are. But OCP has some eight working groups, which would require a good many engineering geeks to set this up, at least on the standards side.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/3/2016 10:53:17 AM
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Re: another one
@NewIPLiz:

Absolutely. Lately it looks like there is too much evoloution on Open Source but not right people with right skills are out there to leverage that. We were discussing a similar topic couple weeks ago and thoughts were going around options to introduce programming as one of the mandatory thing in high school. That to me sounds like a good and feasible option to overcome this shortage in future.

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2016 3:44:57 PM
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Re: another one
Technological advances are great but more can be done with two than one and more can be accomplished with 10 than 5. The OCP is a great initiative and will help companies pull their talent, ideas, and resources to truly revolutionalize the telco industry.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2016 8:39:28 PM
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Re: another one
Yes, very solid point.

I think as long as Telco continues to focus on the consumer and their needs, it can't go wrong. I'm happy to see that they still are invested in improving storage, speed, and security.

Also very true that if everyone pulls together their talents and takes their thinking to the next level, along with the advancing technology, Telco will be great.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/28/2016 3:13:06 PM
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Re: It's moving - not too big a surprise
> "Where are the cable operators?"

The cable operators are too regional and focused more on a small business market. I assume there will be some MSOs with a large enough footprint to try to use the open benefits, but they're not as immediately vested in datacenter tech as much as telcos right now? 

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
1/28/2016 5:19:08 PM
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Re: It's moving - not too big a surprise
Comcast is getting into the enterprise space, I think Cox is, or has, as well. But I agree, not on the data center side, for now. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/3/2016 10:03:09 AM
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Re: It's moving - not too big a surprise
@mhhf1ve:

I can't agree more with you. I believe current Cabel Operator model with regional focus is definitely limiting their growth prospects. It is good knowing about Comcast getting into an Enterprise model as Mike mentioned.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 9:28:48 PM
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I want to see open underwater datacenters!
Microsoft revealed its underwater datacenter project, not too long ago... which is really an ambitious project to get datacenters to be energy efficient and located in cheap but useful spots (since most populated areas are actually near large bodies of water).

http://natick.research.microsoft.com/

I wonder if any open hardware projects would try to take a project like this on... I remember Sun Microsystems had a shipping container datacenter project -- but I assume that got killed and buried by Oracle. 

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
2/3/2016 6:47:19 AM
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Re: I want to see open underwater datacenters!
Thanks for the link! I hadn't heard of this. Instead of "the cloud is on the ground in a data center" it would be "the cloud is in the ocean in a data center." 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/10/2016 1:46:14 PM
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Re: I want to see open underwater datacenters!
Google just joined OCP. Wow. That's an interesting move. 

Datacenters are going to be easier to commoditize... Sorry, small web hosting companies!

http://www.wired.com/2016/03/google-facebook-designing-open-source-data-center-gear-together

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
3/10/2016 1:54:16 PM
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Thanks for posting that. LR's Mitch Wagner is at OCP and wrote a story on it. 

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batye
batye
3/10/2016 1:59:48 PM
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Re: I want to see open underwater datacenters!
@mhhf1ve  could not agree more, interesting smart move - I think... thanks for the link...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/3/2016 10:00:16 AM
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Re: I want to see open underwater datacenters!
@mhhf1ve:

Interesting information. I haven't heard this either. As Mike stated  the Cloud now has not only reached the ground but also the Ocean now.

Project NATICK seems to be a verfy promising initiative.

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